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| I've watched the OG and read the entire manga but this almost made my eyes water and pissed me off like I'd never seen it before. Fucking tragic. |
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Mattinator95 said: don't see why i bother commenting on discussions threads especially questions if hardly anyone will actually answer them ( i mean in general) Regarding your original question wheter you should watch the old adaptation or not, probably the best answer is to check it up for yourself, try a few episodes and see if you like it. Just because it changes stuff or completely takes away stuff from the manga doesn't mean it's a bad thing. Manga in general is far from being perfect and changes sometimes are for the better (look at K-ON! adaptation) The 2001 adaptation had more comedic moments, but it also helps as relief for the bigger drama parts, and the contrast of both comedy and drama hit harder in the big moments. Read the comments of a few of us who think that way in this episode discussion. The music in the 2001 adaptation had a lot more prescence and boosts up a lot the pain and sorrow from the characters in the drama parts. Also as I pointed out, and so did a few others in this thread, some events have better reasoning and pathing in the 2001 adaptation compared to the story so far in this new adaptation. Edit: the original adaptation played only a small part of a longer running manga on just 26 episodes. Just because it wasn't finished doesn't mean it's not worth the time, quite the opposite, I'd say that the 2001 Fruits Basket it's all about the ride, not the destination. |
KimurahMay 22, 2019 4:37 PM
| Hatoriโs story is darn sad, I felt way too much of that for him. Akito seems to be a family villain, probably with a tragic backstory or bad curse |
Amyyw said: Well.. I believe ANYTHING CAN HAPPEN so I DON'T THINK IT'S ABSURD x) Oh I've accepted it.. I just don't think it's a big deal? Some of ya'll act like it was the worst thing that they ever saw when no story is going to be perfect. Not now, not ever... Also, I dont understand why some people that have read the manga/watched the old version are complaining about this event when you all clearly knew it was going to happen x) Well, it would be like asking a food critic how's the lobster? how's the steak? how about that salad? and the critic answers "they are all great". Later on you discover that he's got some weird clinical condition to wich all the food good or bad tastes exactly the same to the critic. He's not a good judge, his evaluation it's "pointless" because there's no bar and everything tastes the same. And no, we're not acting like it's the worst thing posible, and no one in here asked or talked about Perfection. But the bar must be set somewhere in order to stablish if the storytelling is good and or credible for wider audiences, not just people that have no standards. |
KimurahMay 22, 2019 4:39 PM
| two words: I CRIED |
| โMay those who accept their fate be granted Happiness, may those who defy their fate be granted Glory.โ |
| Damn the feels with this past few Ep. We got to learn more about Hatori, really feel bad for him but im glad that Kana is engaged. |
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| Pretty interesting episode, some good information was revealed lol |
| โI love heroes, but I don't want to be one. Do you even know what a hero is!? For example, you have some meat. Pirates will feast on the meat, but the hero will distribute it among the people! I want to eat the meat!โ - Monkey D. Luffy |
| as and old fan and someone who has read the manga countless of times, this episode really, really annoyed me. in general, i'm really not happy with the changes of things they have added and the way they have added scenes from the future to fit in when they're not supposed to annoys me to no end. and the fact that they changed the way tohru saw akito.... just.... i fear the rest of the series now |
| i had actually forgotten what was hatori's animal. i was struggling to remind what happended to the dragon, - my chinese sign - in this series and well... it was a surprise. fruits basket is my weekly dose of sweetness, but, i have to admit - and i swear it's the last time i'll say it - i really miss the old soundtrack. [some people here are too passionate about discussions, jeez...] |
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Kimurah said: Another episode in my own biased opinion that the old adaptation did it better. I really don't like the way Okitsu Kazuyuki voices Hatori's lines, he sounds so monotonous and lifeless. All of his lines sound the same in terms of emotion, he almost sounds like a "shonen character" trying to sound badass, and that really ticks me off. Inoue Kazuhiko had a threatening but softer voice and also was able to portray regret and sorrow in the most important moments of Hatori's arc. u erasing Kana's memories. . This. I'm glad I'm not the only one. Hatori is one of my favorite Fruits Basket characters, so I had high anticipations when he showed up but I was let down almost immediately. Last episode, I thought his voice was too deep, but gave him a chance. This episode confirmed his VA as a miscast (in my books). Hatori needs that mysterious, raspy, yet gentle and sad voice. He's supposed to sound cold and sad, not like a cocky asshole/bad guy in a shounen anime. Personally, this ruined the mood of the episode for me, and it didn't have the same effect/charm as the old one. I cried my eyes out when I saw the original, but felt nothing this time around. I think I might just go back and watch the original for satisfactions sake. Edit: Okay I rewatched the original and can confirm that it's indeed better and wasn't made to be better in my memory. I wish they kept in the part where Kana and Hatori would do little things for each other behind their backs, like him putting his jacket on her, and her leaving gifts hidden in his books, cause it shows how he gradually warmed up to her instead of this version where he just says that he fell in love with her and cuts to her finding out about the curse. I'm enjoying the new adaption, but I feel like the pacing is too fast and the serene ambiance that is the essence of the manga/original anime is missing. |
PankeikkiMay 25, 2019 6:29 AM
| Not gonna lie, this episode hit hard. Unexpected. I almost felt like crying ;-;. |
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| I was a crying mess at the end of this episode. ;_; |
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| Such a heavy episode. My heart breaks for Hatori. Such a hard situation. |
| Wasn't a fan of Hatori's voice, honestly. Way too monotone. |
| Really sad ;( Hatori had to NTR himself because of Akito Fuck. Showing Hatori x Kana's backstory and them loving each other only to get shit over by Akito and forced to erase Kana's memories AND to have them showing Kana about to marry to another random dude while still saying she used to love Hatori... WHILE the other girls didn't know anything and says "Don't cheat on your Honey now"... just made me angry about this episode. /angryface Because this only makes it so Hatori is FOREVERALONE and will NEVER reunite with Kana EVERAGAIN. |
| Nothing Written Here But Us Anime Bunnies *boing boing boing* |
| "I'll be snow in a world without spring, frozen until the day I die." :'( This episode hit me in the feels, man. There's been some mild feels hitherto, but this is the one that really did it. No tears, but I was pretty close. |
 โฉ Discord: the.path.to.pathos โฉ RateYourMusic โฉ last.fm |
| Damn, what a touching episode this was! Hatoriโs had a really tough love life and some of the quotes, such as โIโm willing to be frozen in scow from now until I die. So please. Please. Let her find happiness.โ, are just super depressing! And that scene where they met a couple years later when he congratulated her after that little jolt in his hands, damn. Looks like Tohru-kun is mystically very alike to Kana. I wonder whatโs the deal with Akito though, it was definitely her in the car right? Something about the โShe wonโt even be able to lift the curseโ scene during the rejection of the marriage proposal definitely hints that she tried to help him instead but then the insistence to wipe out her memory was -_-. I wished theyd show more scenes of Kana and Hatori though, kind of felt like theyโre rushing the source material to just get the point across in a haphazard manner. Loved the little Shigure and Hatori bromance though lol. Anyway, Tohru seems to be fazed by the โcurseโ true nature but her unwavering feeling of staying with Shigure, Yuki and Kyo is still strong and thatโs good to see! |
#Anime4Life be my Life Motto! #PrayForKyoAni  |
| I didn't realize how handsome Shigure was until he was standing next to Hatori in the doorway. Hatori's so attractive that he even takes his buddies to the next level XD But then again, Shigure's jokes fell flat and just seemed inappropriate in the scheme of the overall episode. I think a disapproving stare from Hatori (or both Tohru and Hatori) for three seconds would have given it the humorous touch the writers were going for. |
| These faces are so cute that I might just leave them here (#`ะยด)ยดโ`)๏ฝฅฯ๏ฝฅ) ๏พะ๏พ)๏พโ๏พ)๏ฝฅโ๏ฝฅ)๏ฟฃ๏ฝฐ๏ฟฃ)ยด_ใ`) |
| Hatori backstory huh. It was nice, I guess. I didn't like it so much. We know more about Akito. |
NurguburuMay 31, 2019 10:29 PM
| BANZAI NIPPON. Nippon is the Land of freedom. Nippon is the Land of Peace. Nippon is the Land of Justice and Prosperity. In Nippon, we trust. We love Nippon, we love Anime. Anime love us, Nippon love us. ๆฅๆฌ |
| Fudge. I really didnโt want to see this episode. I canโt bare watching Hatoriโs pain and loss. Everything is a major feelstrip. I canโt wait for him to finally obtain happiness again. ;__; |
sakibear said: Wah... I donโt think I liked this one. Maybe iโm just biased but I believe the original did it best. I spent the whole episode saying โwait! No thats not how it happened!โ I know I shouldnโt because duh its a remake but I honestly couldnโt help it. I just didnโt enjoy it honestly. I liked the other episodes a lot but eh this one fell short for me. And also: FUCKING MOMIJIโS VOICE IS GOD AWFUL I THOUGHT IT WOULD GROW ON ME BUT IT STILL HASNโT. ;-; MY BABY BOY same. I couldn't get into this episode and Hatori's voice... |
| Poor Hatori. The curse hurts... I don't remember the seahorse being part of the Zodiac... Oh, so the seahorse resembles the dragon? Now that's just inconvenient having Kana walking behind you and talking about her love life... That was Akito in the car, right? Well whatever the curse is, we know that if you are cursed you're gonna get cucked. Welp, Hatori is the guy I relate to the most now... |
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| This was so sad. But Kana is a Soma too right? Why weren't they allowed to marry. I hope he approves of Tohru and I wonder what the curse is |
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| Hatori x Tohru is my ship from now on, don't think that will change easily. |
| Akito is a PSYCHO A very heartbreaking episode 10/10 |
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| So, what about Hatori stop treating Akito and let everything run its course?... Now, jokes aside, it's obvious there is more to add to the whole picture but so far, Akito seems to be the only one who gives this "curse" its reason to be. He already looks like the kind of character who has to deal with some quite tragic past so now, I feel more interested in knowing his side of the story. His outburst also makes me wonder what other implications this curse may cause... Does Kyou's "true form" has anything to do with it? Uhm... Anyways, leaving that aside, I really loved the storytelling in this episode. Hatori's backstory sure was sad and I felt genuinely bad for him but at the same time, I'm somewhat glad things ended up well for Kana, who now has a new fiance. Furthermore, I also liked the optimistic tone the episode had in the end, which gave me hopes that Hatori might be able to find happiness once again. Or at least, that's what I hope. Overall, it was another fantastic episode. |
| Powerful episode. This show is amazing. |
| chuuable said: After this episode I remembered how much I genuinely hated akito back then. Same here, I don't remember if my feelings changed after the end, coz I don't remember... but I guess it didn't. |
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| Damn that backstory hurt me more than I expected ;_; |
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| Akito is the curse; what a fucking cunt |
| ๐ผ ๐จ๐ค๐ช๐ฃ๐ ๐จ๐ค๐ช๐ก ๐๐ฌ๐๐ก๐ก๐จ ๐ฌ๐๐ฉ๐๐๐ฃ ๐ ๐จ๐ค๐ช๐ฃ๐ ๐ข๐๐ฃ๐ ๐๐ฃ๐ ๐ ๐จ๐ค๐ช๐ฃ๐ ๐๐ค๐๐ฎ |
| Really don't understand what the fuck people in this thread are complaining about. This was a great episode. |
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| Yikes Haa's past is pretty painful! |
| I'm Bruneian and I like anime. And Manchester United. And fat cats. |
| Hatori is a cool guy and damn did he have it rough. His story hit me. I already dislike this Akito person. |
| The worst part was when kana was walking right by him at the end. That was fucking depressing. good lord that is sad. |
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| That was heartbreaking and made me feel kind of empty. Hatori's backstory was so sad and tragic. He really loved Kana and I don't understand why Akito was so against it especially since Kana seems to be a Soma too? Sure, she's an outside Soma but so is Kyo. I wish Kana would not have blamed herself so much. I'm sure Hatori never blamed her. The guilt was slowly killing her. This hit me almost as hard as in Code Geass when Knowing that, when I heard about Hatori, wiping memories, and then Momiji talking about Hatori used to have a girlfriend, I knew what was coming. But that didn't prepare me for it at all. At the very least, Kana seems to have found happiness. I wish they had talked or something. It still feels wrong that Kana doesn't remember a thing and never will. Hatori really loves her. And Kana it seems still does like Hatori even though she doesn't remember a thing. I guess that just shows her love was true. This is my favourite episode so far, and has made Hatori my favourite character. Damn the feels. |
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| Why Akito... Sad episode :( |
| I almost hated it due to some changes in the first half of it. But after that 2nd half and that scene where Hatori saw Kana happy? (that the old version never did) That was beautiful! 5/5! Still the best part of the whole story. I think Hatori is one of the best characters. |
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| Hatori and Shigure are really like BFFs. But geez, Hatori's backstory makes me really sad. And Akito is so violent I think he hurt the other Soma's too. I hope Hatori will be happy too. (โฅ๏นโฅ) |
  โ โโโ ๐๐ฐ๐ธ ๐ค๐ข๐ฏ ๐ ๐ฃ๐ณ๐ช๐ฏ๐จ ๐ฑ๐ฆ๐ข๐ค๐ฆ ๐ต๐ฐ ๐ฎ๐บ ๐ฉ๐ฆ๐ข๐ณ๐ต? ๐๐ฉ๐ฆ๐ฏ ๐ ๐ต๐ฉ๐ช๐ฏ๐ฌ ๐ข๐ฃ๐ฐ๐ถ๐ต ๐ช๐ต ๐ฆ๐ท๐ฆ๐ณ๐บ ๐ฅ๐ข๐บ? |
| I'M NOT CRYING, YOU'RE CRYING!!!!!!! Huuuu... (เฒฅ๏นเฒฅ) HatoriXKana always gets to me. Always. ;A; Also, Kana'as old hair looked way better haha. Poor Hari ;~; |
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