Charmed is a Mess (Season 4) (Manic Episodes)
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- Опубликовано: 13 апр 2025
- Now that Shannen Doherty has left the cast, who will take the mantle as one of the three horrible sisters?
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Daryl’s catchphrase throughout the entire series was “I’m a cop!” Like that’s new information. I had that sound bite as a text alert back in the day 😂
Lucy Dyamond
Omg 🤣😂
Best text alert = 2Pac saying "I don't give a fuck"
Same energy as "I'm a Top!" on Watts the Safeword
Daryl's other catchphrase is " I don't want to know. I don't want to know."
“Now kiss” LOL
I literally said the EXACT same thing
@@wohdinhel lol me too. but i saw this right after i posted it so i deleted it :P
14:29
Barbosoa: JUST KISS
Seriously, they look like they connected big time after that moment
"what ever Darel. You stick to the background till we run out of characters again" lol
Hahaha
Every now and then, despite never having watching a single episode of Charmed, I will put these reviews on in the background and enjoy my day listening to Allison talk about how big of a pill Phoebe is. There's something... satisfying and calming about it.
Now that’s TRUE dedication. I really hope you get to watch it at least once at some point.
As much as it is insufferable (which I need you to experience lol) it has such redeeming qualities, especially in the earlier seasons. It is a good show imo, given all the obvious flaws.
There’s clear magic and a pull to all of the characters. Yes, even Phoebe…
@@seana_momsen Haha, thanks. I'm an X-Files fan, so I know the masochism that comes with liking a show that dips in quality here and there. I don't know if Charmed is on any streaming services in my area, so I can't guarantee I'll get around to it soon.
I love how you can tell when Phoebe has turned evil based on if she's wearing dark eyeliner on her lower lash line.
She basically chose a demon over her sister😈
Both is the same with cole colour clothes
After Prue left they gave too much protagonism to Phoebe and they didn't care about the innocents at all. Prue was the one keeping everything together as the most powerful witch and the big sister.
I think the writers felt some type of way about the way Alyssa stood up for herself and committed to character assassination until like season 7 or 8 😅
They started acting like saving innocents was a constant nuisance in their lives. Leo, Piper’s kids, Phoebe’s job or her date of the week had to come first. Paige was the only one left for a good while that actually cared
Woooowww. That is fairly unique. A show is Ruined Forever after a main character is written out, but not because of the new character who's brought in to replace them, but because of the old characters that remain. Amazing.
Not really ….Rose and her acting did nothing for the show. It
Was a
Dominoe effect with the other actresses really
Man, now that you mention it and I really think about it, Cole was really the victim of the abusive relationship. Not Phoebe.
He went there to kill her so I'd say both. Mutual. Just because they made him a huge simp at the end doesn't mean he was remotely ok
@@Jkjoannaki you are literally right and wrong at the same time
Cole was half demon he had a side that was a giant red monster.
The Charmed Ones were human witches.
He did horrible stuff but the sisters knew about it.
He was sent to kill them but he turned good or even tried his best to the full maximum but Phoebe had to be all petty after he murdered a witch UNDER A SPELL blinded by her belief he could be still evil.
He was begging Phoebe to take that part away from him and she refused to.
I would be talking a much different tone if they wouldn‘t have acted as if he wasn‘t possessed by the source of all evil.
Evil was literally chasing him but when it comes to Phoebe she is just so mean and self centered that she does not even want Cole to save innocents and tries to kill Jim but doesn‘t kill him when she finds out he wants her to kill him.
Cole tried his best and in the end I can proudly say that he WAS good - except for in the stupid “let‘s make Cole evil again for four episodes“ plot) -
Cole entered the relationship in a really concerning way and was a huge threat in the beginning but the Charmed Ones decided to project all of their shortcomings onto him.
Remember in season 6 when they let the criminal from Phoebe‘s Highschool Reunion die by turning him into Chris who was being tracked by vaporizing spit? Paige could have orbed them out but he was being too big of a problem for them.
Same thing as Phoebe in Morality Bites.
Cole is not a saint, like at all but Phoebe was the abusive one for most of the show.
She sent him into HELL and refused to let him out.
@@JkjoannakiDid you find out why he was sent to kill the charmed one ?
@@metatronblack It was his job as an agent for the triad. He had no reservations for killing the girls until he met Phoebe and fell in love and suddenly killing her is more of a pain for him.
@@metatronblack they sent cause as a half human it was possible for him to blend in and get close to the sisters, in return Cole was supposed to get a better standing and his fathers soul back
"A used car salesman could steal their powers..." I fucking love this woman.
Your mother's only request was that your name start with a P. That's why you are named Pgayle.
I can't wait until we meet their long lost brother, Prepuce.
Ptolemy @@ag9953
I just realized, the strongest episodes of the show tend to be about time travel. All Hell Breaks Loose, Morality Bites, A Paige From The Past...
True. And Dejavu All Over Again.
@Paul Brown definitely mot withstock haha
@Paul Brown definitely not witchstock haha
I would say the best stories Charmed did related to Prue and Paige’s experiences with mortality and morality. I felt like Prue and Paige always had the best stories relating to forces they couldn’t stop-death and destiny.
Piper couldn't freeze Cole in season 3 (in that courtroom scene), because she specifically intended to freeze only innocents. That's how they found out the courtroom is full of demons.
Without Shannen Doherty, unfortunately the show wasn't what it used to be.
I didn't appreciate her enough as a kid. I like Paige I wish it was Prue Piper Paige
You're wrong i didnt like Prue she was so selfish and just annoying and her acting was terrible for the most part she did good in some scenes but most was awful
@@jakeyboy203 I'm not wrong, I was just giving my opinion. And as far as acting is concerned, you can say a lot about her, but certainly not that she is a bad actress! Therefore, one should always remain factual and objective when criticizing someone. And besides, Aaron Spelling certainly wouldn't have hired her two for one of his most important productions if she was such a bad actress as you say.
@@TheJourney-fw3df I agree with you !!!!
@@jakeyboy203 🤦♀
I love charmed so much, but dammit... These reviews are funny as shit, and bring up good points.
Indeed i feel the same way it was on my 'related' area and i thought sure i'll watch one and now i'm up to 4 :P the point made are valid but i still like the show
Charmed is a fun show if you completely suspend your brain’s ability to engage in critical art analysis. The moment you actually *think* about what’s going on it immediately falls apart.
I'm just angry at myself for not seeing so many of these flaws. They're not even hard to spot, it's just infuriating.
That's why we call this #PremiumCannon content
everyone knows by season 4 they basically said fuck it and didnt even bother with continuity and it shows..its really lazy
Early series Phoebe: Why can't I find love?
Season 4 Phoebe: Love isn't enough, see ya Cole!
" Despite of or perhaps *because* he's the Source, Cole still loves Phoebe "
I cracked up so hard xD
The episode where Paige goes back in time was just as well written as when they killed piper. The emotions were all there and I felt it
That’s one of my favorite episodes of the series
I really loved Cole and Leo’s bromance on the show! And yeah, I agree, it would have been way more fun to watch the two of them kicking ass and being buddies together, rather than watching the Charmed ones acting like idiots and keeping them on a leash.
Actually, Leo and Cole probably would have made a better couple than Pheobe and Cole and Leo and Piper.
Schoolgirl325 😂😂
I liked PheobexCole and LeoxPiper at first, but then the writers ruined them! I would have been all for a LeoxCole romance once they turned Pheobe and Piper into bitches.
Right? The forbidden love of a white-lighter and a half-demon would be such an interesting concept! It would also be a great change to see a gay couple for once on a show that is so rigidly straight and heteronormative.
Schoolgirl325 can a show be a show without the LGBT? Not everyone is into that.
@@purplelove010 Nobody cares if you're "not into that". LGBT people exist and watch media, whether you like it or not.
"Who makes up these cockaminny rules?" Tagline of the show.
looking back it's actually insane how the show got away with replacing prue. it worked pretty seamlessly. i guess the show had the advantage of not giving a shit. it was like "she's dead, we got a new sister now, back to worrying about men"
Something even tells me that they predicted that Shannen would leave before the show would come to an end hence why they wrote in the whitelighter affair.
It shows that the stupid was sort of purposely stupid but they knew that this issue would have to be dealt with caution and still hands if they wanted the show to continue for more seasons.
Shannon is the one who requested to leave and had a big hand in season 3 b/c she knew it would be her last season so she was able to set up the foreshadowed death fairly well.
@@isaiahcaston4539 wasn‘t Shannen notorious for quitting her roles when her needs weren‘t met?
I think that‘s why they set up the affair with Sam and their mom in the first place, I mean it worked TOO well, as if they decided to create a back door for the power of three.
It could be a coincidence, but as I said, it worked too well for me so I doubt it was coincidence.
@@Catvalentain Nope, by season 3 Shannon was already directing episodes and each girl had some creative influence on their characters. Shannon didn't like the direction the show was going in and expressed it to the creators. After Constance left, the show began to change and so Shannon suggested killing her character off. Of course there were issues with Alyssa too. They reached out to her for the finale but she said she turned it down because the way they wanted to reintroduce Prue wasn't organic or authentic.
@@Catvalentain Sam and Patty's line was already made to draw a parallel to piper and Leo, I think it was a lucky break
I don't think they ever warmed up to Paige. She was more like a inconvenience they had to tolerate. Especially Piper
that was the point..the arc was about her becoming the big sister...she was always the middle one and she always felt guilt about being the cause of her sister's death in some way...
@@razkable that arc lasted 5 seasons lmao
I loved Paige - She brought some quirkiness, and you could literally feel her awkwardness through the screen. She was a difference to the show although Prue was amazing also. They’re both great actresses.
@@razkable well Holly reportedly made the most of them all , like millions from the show.
@@Jay-uw7se ~I totally agree with you~~One of my favorite shows ever~~I simply adored Paige and her personality on Charmed~~I just came across these so called "Messy Vids" Well if you think about it, it's suppose to be messy~~lol~~It's all about witches and things that just don't happen everyday~~I hate it when people say they should have done it this way or they shouldn't have done it that way~~It's suppose to be an off the wall series~~That's why people loved the show because it was different~~Weird, crazy, insane, unrealistic, etc. That's what made the show so popular~~Yes I did miss when Shannon was killed off, but it still turned out to be a great show~~I also loved the ending~~I and other people was wondering why Prue's picture wasn't shown. I think it was because the writers thought she had nothing to do in how it ended~~I dunno~~It was still a great show and I still watch all the reruns~~Some people should stop nit picking about the should of's would of's and could of's and just enjoy it~~It's just a show and all shows have their flaws~~All shows~~Have a nice day~~😃😃😃~~
What I really can't conceive is the fact that Prue literally disappeared. There wouldn't even be a single photo of her in the house! I understand the mess with the actress and her break up with the series (or the fact that she got fired) but... ereasing Prue so fast and so naturally from the series as if she was no one... not leaving a single trace! Btw, I both loved and hated Charmed, and I am in love with these videos!
In order for the producers to use a photo of Prue they would have to pay Shannon
Especially in the show like this, where everything is possible and dead characters are coming back ALL THE TIME. Like seriously Penny despite being dead appeared 15 times during run of the show! She was literally in every season. 5 times only in season 5! For Penny it's 11 times during the whole show. So it literally makes NO SENSE at all why Prue never showed up after her death. Even Cole was able to show up in season 7. I could never understand why they didn't recast the actress - either as a series regular from s4 or as guest star (for flashbacks, ghost appearances etc.).
Yeah is ridiculis she can saw her mom and grandma death but not her sis death 😂😂😂😂😂 ,for use "prue pict" brad kern or wb/cw needed agrement that with shannen and you know .....they gotta issues so that not gonna hapens
gams cleaned it up so the girls could move on clearly.
Shannon didn’t realize they were gonna get such a sweet syndication deal and didn’t let them use her likeness again
Tempest was what I like to call a "concept" demon. Similar to the fear demon, they can never be banished forever. Overtime they are capable of coming back. Tempest was recently banished and as such in a deeper part of the Underworld inaccessible for normal demons, slowly reconstituting himself so that he can return to the normal world. Cole needed to go to the Source bcs he was the only one capable of contacting him, and it was a big favour bcs Tempest was still weak and him turning back time would delay his return to the world even more.
And since I'm here trying to make sense of the Charmed Lore, a word regarding the sisters previous lifes and prepared spells for the Power of Three. Bringing the Power of Three was a centuries-long project by the forces of Light. Three souls cappable of becoming part of the Power of Three where purpusfully brough closer and closer in each reincarantion to intwinie their destiny as much as possible, that's why one life they are cousins and then later sisters. Similar witches from the Halliwell bloodline knew that the Charmed ones are coming so they wrote and prepared spells taping into their power they could use in the future.
It also explained why they happened to end up living in a house that had a Nexus, it was all in preparations to make the Charmed as powerfull as possible
It seems like you could write a better version of Charmed.
You made more sense of the WHOLE Charmed Universe in a three paragraph comment than Brad Kern in a full 8-season show 💀
Thank you for explaining that lol I don't understand why so many Charmed fans struggle with connecting these dots, it's literally all in the show. It's like they watch highlights of each season and use that to then dismantle the series. I get that it's sometimes messy with quite a few holes, especially in the later seasons, but the prophecy and destiny of the sisters was pretty much explained in the first 2 seasons...
If they added this stuff in with Tempest, it would’ve created way more stakes and tension for the episode. And while I think the episode was well done overall, this would’ve been the cherry on top. Probably would’ve ended up being the best episode of the show tbh and gave the supporting characters more of a chance to be fleshed out.
okay but how funny would it have been if the nuns were like "we have to give her a name that starts with 'P'...how about Prudence?"
10:19 “i freaked out in the beginning too” no phoebe, you were excited to have your powers while piper and prue freaked out.
To be honest, if the viewers were given a choice over who had to leave-Alyssa or Shannen, I would've gone with Alyssa. After Shannen left, everything just seemed to center around Alyssa/Phoebe somehow. She was the center of almost every promotional poster or DVD cover, she was always credited first in the opening theme, and her love interests after Cole never had that slow bond with her-they were always just enamored with her somehow and had no real impact on her as a character. And since she is one of the producers, I can't help but think it's kind-of an ego-boost for Alyssa, having her be the center of the show. Prue had some of the best character-growth on that show and it would've been nice to see that flourish and establish a bond between her and Paige. Don't get me wrong, I do like the series, but as a lover of good stories, I can't help but feel they went in the wrong direction by keeping Alyssa as Phoebe or rather, by defecating all over Phoebe's character by making her a selfish bitch.
EXACTLY
@KGAugh james They could just as easily given her more plots but chose not to. I mean, Phoebe could still have had her plot with Cole and Prue could have been the one fighting to save Phoebe. I thought I remember seeing that Alyssa was becoming the popular one and Shannon resented that, which may have been the cause of the rift. Which I get but it's still petty...
Anyway, there was lots of potential with Prue but, due to behind-thr-scenes-shenanigans, they gave her less before dropping her. It really is sad if you think about what could have been.
I would've voted for Alyssa to leave as Prue was more entertaining and likeable, not to mention she was the most devoted to the craft by saving people and balancing her career.
This is reflected on Paige, who is shown as the most independent and is usually doing the right thing by saving people.
I also think Shannen Doherty is just the best actress out of the trio
I mean it goes both ways to be honest. Prue was pretty much the center of attention for the first two seasons and it was about time the other two finally got some proper story lines as well. I loved Cole and Phoebe's relationship but hated how much Phoebe's character changed afterwards. If we're talking about season 6-8 then yes she was a selfish bitch but it was inevitable seeing as Alyssa and Holly started co-producing the show when it all started to go down hill for their characters lol
@28:10 THIS. Paige's white lighter half should be able to offset Leo's, but somehow also heal the half of Cole that's a demon, even though Leo can't? WHAT? That was SO stupid it hurt. I am so happy you mentioned it. I was looking forward to seeing this when I finished the season and hoping you'd bring it up. Just so so stupid.
Wait wait wait. In canon, this future Phoebe is still main timeline Phoebe. Which means she regrets marrying Poop and blaming Colebama for everything. And she dies horribly. Hallelujah!
How tho? Future Phoebe didn’t marry Cole?
@@friendsfans123 Cup
XD
Hooray for small victories.
I just finished watching Season 4 and had to come find other people who hate how Phoebe did Cole! How could she???? He tried a million times to un-evil himself, didn't she owe it to him to give him a chance? Like, damn!!! I hate her so much! I can't even watch Season 5, I'm so over it!!!!!
Well Phoebe actually becomes *The Scrappy* (as TV tropes labels it) of Charmed because of that reason. Her treatment of Cole is the most despised thing of the show, aside from Season 8.
Phoebe is great. Phoebe is good. Let us thank Her for this food.
Season 5 isn't worth watching all it had was great acting and 3 decent episodes.
Context Code what did she do in season 8? I got so mad that I didn’t finish the show after what happened with Cole? 😅
@@friendsfans123 It's not that Phoebe did anything specific so much as season 8 as a whole is really bad. It was basically greenlit after they had effectively ended the series but with a smaller budget and no real plan on how to continue.
Cole is the only goddamn interesting and even heroic character in this whole damn show
He was also the only competent character.
That's why he killed the Triad, Krell, really the Source, probably could have taken Barbas.
I loved Phoebe she was my favorite.She was so in love with love she was ride or die for Cole.Watching this makes me realize was selfish as hell and didn’t love Cole as much as I thought
35:09
Well how's this for 🚩
Same. I thought Phoebe was so cool and loved her relationship with Cole, but watching these videos made me realize how self centered she truly is.
When Phoebe got the "cut my hair in the peak of a manic rage" bangs, it really like helped her look more evil and went well with her being absolutely awful. I honestly think it was meant to be some kind of like magical effect of Cole making her evil that they just forgot to tell us lol, all leading her to become evil along with Cole. It was still shitty though.
I love the fact that Cole was the only one laughing and Leo looks over like dude...not funny, which is why he offered to bring back the inspector. *He was laughing the whole way there 🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂 13:30
I hate how Cole tries to give the sources powers to the wizard and Phoebe vanquishs the wizard before he can finish and blames Cole for him being the new source
Exactly! Literally makes no sense but “ Cole has to be the bad guy cuz of his past” 😒
Also he only was possessed because he literally saved them from said Source...idiots they be.
@@friendsfans123 I know right
@@georgeprchal3924 I totally agree, they are
"Now she's evil Pocahontas"
I'm dead 😂😂🤣🤣👍
And when Leo is attacked by those 2 ghosts and his body heals itself. Like, hello! Leo said Whitelighter's can't heal themselves but yet.... xD
This is probably my other favorite season aside from season 3. But I won't lie this is the point of the show were I don't like anything past it. It's pretty much the last tolerable season. However I also agree in that the last 4 episodes of this season are infuriating. I will say Paige is easily the best part of the season, usually when a show gains a new main character it never ends up well, but with Paige while the show got worse, it was never because she influenced it. In fact Paige is the only one of the three sisters with any sort of humanity at this point and continues throughout the rest of the show, that is when Paige isn't falling under the dreaded Charmed Curse anyway, therefore she's the "lesser of three evil" as you would call it. The things that infuriated me the most about this season was how Paige gets treated in the 2nd half of the season. (Especially *The Fifth Halliwheel*) For the first 13 or so episodes, it's just the typical unserious nature of the show, basically set standard and introducing Paige of course. I also find it weird how whenever Paige does want to use Magic for reasons of wanting to help someone she's treated in the wrong, but whenever Phoebe wants to use it for herself it's perfectly fine.
However once the Stupid source gets vanquished everyone basically treats Paige like shit. Mostly notably Phoebe (Cole has an excuse he's possessed against his will), and like I talked about last time it has to due with the fact Paige senses something wrong with Cole, and according to Phoebe she's so dense and lovestruck you can't go against anything involving Cole, yet she can whenever she gains the same amount of distrust.
I will say Paige's mistrust does come from the fact Cole use to be evil, which true isn't right to judge someone for, but at the same time she's never wrong about something being completely wrong with him. In fact when she keeps trying to tell everyone Cole's acting different they either berate her or fail to question any sort of suspicion, Paige seems to be the only one that suspects something bad is happening and Phoebe's too lovestruck to see it and Piper just follows Phoebe simply because "she doesn't wanna upset Phoebe" and remember when I said Phoebe chose Cole over her sisters in "All Hell Breaks Loose"? Well in "Saving Private Leo" she gets upset that she feels she has to choose between them and Cole, despite it not being like that at all, she's just mad because its inconveniencing her. This is basically confirmed when she chooses to be evil with Cole over her own sisters, once again confirming she cares more about her feelings for Cole than her sister's. Even the Seer calls Phoebe out on this at one point, as does Cole himself! Speaking of the Seer she even points out to the Source how stupid his plan was from the start and how stupid using the Hollow was. I also agree that *A Paige from the Past* was the best episode of the season and develops Paige a bit more.
I also agree that Phoebe choosing to be evil is the point where Phoebe became my most hated character in media. As well as how Phoebe acts through the entire 2nd half of the season. It always baffled me why she treated Paige for having any sort of distain or sensing something was off with Cole, but the moment Phoebe does herself she pulls the "Cole was always evil" card. When Piper catches on to Paige's same suspicion about Cole Phoebe says "Screw the Power of Three" when Paige tells her.
The most infuriating moments in this season are Marry Go-Round, The Fifth Halliwheel, We're off to see the Wizard and Long Live the Queen all because these feature Phoebe's bitchy and hypocritical attitude at its worse during the entire season. Especially Marry -Go Round and We're off to see the Wizard.
Idk I didn't find Paige having an issue with Cole's evil past a problem. It's much better than sweeping it under the rug like everyone else did. Her reaction was realistic imo and it really showed the difference between her & the other 2(in a good way).
Tempus can only reverse time with the Source’s permission, so Cole did the right thing going to the boss
When I was still a kid, I was pretty annoyed by these characters who got more and more selfish every season. And I despised the _suddenly turned evil_ plot. It's cool the first episode it happens - but not the 5th time or the 10th time. Then It's just stupid anymore
"Does evil mean more powerful?"
Yoda answered this: Not more powerful, just easier. I really like this answer, because it IS easier for me to think of a rotten person as shitty, and wanting to use violence of some sort to bring them down [and since I'm not physically powerful and wouldn't turn a knife or gun against somebody - outside of my life or someone else's being at stake - more applicable to me...]. It's a hellalot easier than trying to see them as somebody who made a wrong choice, and forgive them, knowing that they may not appreciate such mercy and turn their way around.
I don't have a story problem with this in Charmed, except I think it should've been a plot point in the very first few episodes with Piper, as she continued from the start to go behind Phoebe's back to try to reach their elder sister -- and I do think that Alyssa hid well that she was actually relieved/happy not to deal with Shannon's bullshit anymore].
As for Shannon, I wouldn't expect her to be the bigger person, but I do wonder why she couldn't appear with her "friend" Holly Marie Combs in a scene that didn't involve Alyssa being on set. Whether in this episode or a one-shot later, there should've been a scene with her comforting/confronting Piper somewhere -- maybe when Piper became a Greek Goddess or when she became a Fury. They could've handwaved an explanation for why she couldn't interact with the living, because "THE RULES" demanded that she move beyond her mortal life, before she could be allowed to interact as Grams and Mom were currently doing.
I kinda-sorta weep that Holly, Shannon, and the Staff couldn't arrange something along these lines [on the other hand, we don't know if the chaos behind the scenes affected Shannon and Holly's relationship as well - Do we?].
I imagine Shannon was furious with everyone involved with the show. Someone, either she or Alyssa, supposedly issued an ultimatum and Shannon was not their choice. She would be angry at everyone except holly so she'd never want the show to profit off of her again. No likeness, no appearance, nothing. Hopefully the whole - cast reunion that's been rumoured as a Netflix original comes through, then paige can meet big sis
It did not change their relationship they did a show recently (pre-Covid) like a road-trip type thing the 2 of them driving around the country
@@keirak7232 is this still true or is this about the new charmed that has nothing to do with the og one
Well, now we all know what happened.
" [a spell] causes her boobs to grow as a side-effect" I did a double take at this. I can't believe this is something that made in past the brainstorming.
I loved the show as a kid (and still do) and always loved Leo and Piper. going back and watching it as an adult though, holy shit their relationship is so abusive. the amount of both physical and emotional abuse Leo is subjected to from Piper and her sisters is ridiculous
I honestly think the most likely truth is Milano was the problem child of Charmed. Doherty, Combs, and McGowan have all pretty much agreed that she made the set toxic, and multiple people confirming a single story tends to lend it credence.
Something I absolutely love about this show - they show that men are allowed to cry!
As far as the personal gain argument... yeah, Phoebe was allowed to get away with everything on this show. Once again leaning to my theory that Milano was so difficult to work with that they basically let her do what she wanted once she became an executive producer. Although, at the same time, she did choose evil because she actually WAS under the influence of the Source's demonic child in her womb.
While the Seer claiming the child was hers all along was dumb (because that's not how natural pregnancy works), it should be noted that the unborn demon baby BECAME the new Source of All Evil after Cole's death, hence why he had all the powers of the Source.
This show seems to make way more sense if you frame it as an origin story for a coven of cackling wicked witches, because as heroes these girls are _terrible._
AtticWarrior1994 no the hell they are not they are incredible because if they weren't they wouldn't still be there and their entire world would be lost so no they are not terrible they are absolutely incredible and amazingly badass
pam moore are you 11?
It would have been interesting if the show had used it to show their downfall into evil, the fallout, and their realization that they want to do good after all. But real drama just had to be avoided I guess...
It would be fun to see a parallel universe which revealed this one was the evil timeline.
they seem very selfish and the monsters mainly want them dead getting others hurt in the cross fire
I totally ship Cole/Leo this season. Much more than Cole/Phoebe.
You already know Leo is the bottom
My heart couldn’t withstand that, I’m gay for both of them my heart would shatter when they would actually be straight
I live for their bromance I wish there was more ;-; we really been robbed
I ship Darryl/Cole so hard!
If anyone does fanart, try Cole and Leo.
I long for a Derryll/Cole/Leo spin-off
How about Cole and Leo do a crossover with Angel and Spike
Marvels Runaways does feature Spike and Cole’s respective actors in it but I still think that a crossover between their most recognizable characters would be just as awesome
cole daryl and leo were the only reasons to keep watching the show one prue died..i was like fuck the other sisters at the point...
They were thanking Leo (faux grandson) in lieu of thanking Leo (war hero). Kinda like when you thank someone for their family member's military service. Since the old vets couldn't thank Leo for saving them, they passed it on to "Leo".
Dead people can visit you all the time... unless they're Prue.
Also your little Troll voice for Piper, Phoebe and the Producers slayed me.
14:41 "Now kiss!" LOL! Oh how I wish! The gay fanfic I didn't even know I needed!
Every time you say “make it easyyyy!” It tickles me so much .
5:39 well yeah, the ancestors had premonition powers. they could've had visions about the demons the sisters were going to face and write spells beforehand.
I find it funny that the Charmed Ones got a get out jail free card and to get a life free of magic, however, they chose to keep their powers.
So them complaining throughout S5-S8 is totally invalid. If they didnt want demons in their life, they shouldve quit when they had the chance
They should’ve fired Alyssa, not Shannon
I think the producers wanted Shannen gone, because she was constantly challenging their authority and trying to influence production. Shannen and Holly both hint at this dynamic. They used the tension and conflict with Alyssa to fire her.
These reviews make me want to watch buffy again
Yeah. Me, too. And the shame of it is, Piper resenting Paige for 'replacing' Prue would be absolutely human of her. It's wrong, of course, but it's understandable. You could sympathize with her, and still be on her side and want to hug her and help her through it.... Except.
Except, the writing wants to overcome this character moment/arc in one episode, without exploring it, because Charmed can't be bothered with actual storylines. Poor Rose. Poor behind the scenes peeps who have to deal with Alyssa's ego, and a very weak Producer (that would be you, Holly Marie). All of these have the seeds to be heart-wrenching for more than 10 seconds. But nobody on this staff is Joss, or Jane or anyone who would tell our "stars" that they need to embrace being wrong, and then play it to the hilt, instead of turning out to be INNOCENT at the closing credits. And none of our actresses (though I think it's mostly Milano) will live with the fact that their characters are NOT them... they can be wrong, they can do things that fans will hate, they can be petty and repulsive for a certain situation, and nobody will hate their characters (read them, because they lost sight that there is a difference) forever.
I.E. they can be adults dealing with horrible adult choices and sometimes failing, without making their character always right, even if everyone around them has to ignore what they just did/apologize for doubting them/be shown to suffer because they didn't bow down to the Charmed One/[the actresses with Producer titles].
I can only think that Brian Krause went through Hell trying to play the doormat that was Leo [but considering the pay for a regular gig, I forgive his eating it completely], without ever being able to give Piper some sort of comeuppance, for her at-times repugnant character.
I can't imagine that Alyssa & Holly didn't notice that their characters were coming across as utterly selfish and gross, except if they were absolutely lost in their egos. [Between you and me: I sometimes thought that Alyssa was playing horrendously selfish just to see how far the fans would go to excuse her. I don't *really* think that, but I had wondered if maybe all of this was a "really guys... REALLY... you're getting on board with this, instead of calling my character out?? ... but I think that is just what I want to believe, because I want to like her - as explained below.]
***[This is only about this role though. I know that Alyssa has been an activist, including for AIDS victims when it was easier to just spit on them. I will always have a soft spot in my heart for that. It doesn't change Charmed's script quality, though.]***
Buffy had the same exact issues, especially later seasons where the show completely fell off and introduced the worst character of all time, Dawn.
@Jake Gunn, the introduction of Dawn was the best plot twist ever, and there was a good reason for her sudden existence. They'd planned it for years and it made for the best season of the entire show. That in way no compares to the mess that was Charmed.
"yes phoebe there's nothing you could've done" lol
I wish there'd be a Supernatural Manic Episodes.
MforMovesets I'd love that😁
MforMovesets I don't think Lupa has that much free time.
Omg that'd be EPIC!!
Considering how extensive her Charmed reviews are, a Supernatural series review would be a massive commitment.
Plus that show is actually good. Still has flaws yes, but you have to admit, compared to this, Supernatural is like...I don't know. I'm more of a movie buff than a tv buff. So Supernatural is Casablanca while this is Troma's Mother's Day movie.
the first episode of this show is like a completely different program from the rest of the episodes.
You better fucking believe it 😂😂😂
There's a real vein of Misandry that runs through Charmed: men are either weak (Leo, Dan) or evil (Cole and about every other male)while the women are always justified in their actions regardless of behaviour.
As a man, it's interesting to see the usual supposed 'power relations' flipped.
Maybe that was truly the secret if it's surprising success?
I like charmed. These reviews are good tho
To really love a show, we also have to be able to laugh at it :)
These just keep getting funnier and funnier. I will never stop praising these videos.
James Keeling (in evil Phoebe voice) ALL HAIL THE GREAT ALLISON ONE
These videos are so funny 😂 I love and adore Charmed but I can't stop watching your manic episodes about it ... snacks , beer and another hour long charmed manic episode ... this is bliss 😁
Shannen is a good actress with ANY material, she just had IT. I liken her to the impeccable Kate Jackson of Charlies Angels who also left that show and it was never as good again.
Kate Jackson was my favourite angel, with the dark, long haired lady a close second. Can't remember her name.
"take that fucking laptop into your room, bitch!"
I was not ready!!😂😂
The reason that their baby would be so powerful is because it was prophesied that the first baby of a charmed one would be incredibly powerful
Edit: what I mean by this comment is that in one of the seasons they said that the first born of a Charmed one (it was in season four on the episode where Cole is trying to get Phoebe pregnant. The seer had predicted it - it's either that episode or the one where Cole was confirmed to be the new source - but I'm pretty sure it's the episode mentioned) would be the most powerful witch they've ever seen. That's why Wyatt is so powerful. He was the first born of the Charmed ones.
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Their baby is powerful because people expected it to be powerful?
@@Zachking98 The whole each new generation is supposed to grow in power was only supposed to apply up until the conception of the Charmed Ones. After the Charmed Ones generation, all future generations should be weaker. Brad Kern messed up basic lore with that Twice Blessed prophcey.
Like how power development was thrown out of the window past season 4.
Exactly. Paige isn't as powerful because her mother isn't a Charmed One. Also, she got her powers as an adult. She wouldn't have had as much time to practice.
I'm saying that in one of the seasons they said that the first born of a Charmed one (it was in season four on the episode where Cole is trying to get Phoebe pregnant. The seer had predicted it - it's either that episode or the one where Cole was confirmed to be the new source) would be the most powerful witch they've ever seen. That's why Wyatt is so powerful. He was the first born of the Charmed ones.
I HATED how much the objectified Alyssa Milano's body. They did that to bring in Male views.
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Then she opened her mouth and those views were lost. A wasted effort indeed.
I loved all the skimpy outfits. The female body is beautiful, why hide it?
I only wish I had been confident enough when I was younger to have worn similar outfits.
@Ulyx - Because women are only allowed to do what they want, have agency and be strong/independent in ways that are approved by the Femorthodoxy... at times approved by the Femorthodoxy.
This grown woman isn't allowed to wear revealing clothing, leave that to the 12 year olds in yet another instalment of "WTF Netflix"?
That clip of Piper saying "how does a Whitelighter get somebody knocked up" makes no sense. Piper has been to the future where she and Leo had a daughter. She knows that Whitelighters are fertile.
How the power of three prophecy came about was actually shown in the episode where the girls go back in time to save Melinda before she was born. Their great x10 grandmother saw how powerful they were so she wrote about them in the book “predicting” the power of three. It’s not like she foresaw it really. Together, anything is stronger. And I don’t think the power of three spell is like a written and made spell. I think it works like them focusing their power and believing in their love for each other. The chant just helps the focusing. And the other spells written are by their ancestors who’s encounter the demons and made the spells themselves.
In "Bite Me" Paige has a date with Ronan, but he doesn't show up because he's a vampire waiting outside to ambush her. When Paige decides to call it a night, her sisters invited her to dinner. She says "no, I don't Ronan to think I was waiting for him if he shows up this late" implying that P3 does serve food, it is just served entirely offscreen.
That feels like a big stretch and even so, to explain a big plot hole with a throw away line...
Bless the algorithm for my rewatch. I laughed so hard at the whitelighter poop joke I gave myself hiccups.
these videos are genuinely hilarious, i love them
This review is hilarious I was dying throughout. I still adore and love charmed but I can always laugh with people picking fun at it.
Piper and Phoebe: You have no choice.
Later that season: *Piper and Leo bind the powers of a kid*
Yay you hate Phoebe as much as I do 🥺!! Subscribed !!!
Someone can be born a white lighter or you can die and become a white lighter.. Wyatt is very powerful not only because he's half witch half white lighter, but because he is also the first born of a charmed one.
Phoebe didn't have to stay in the underworld because the deal The Source made was to save all the sisters. Since he broke his end, Phoebe wasn't magically obligated to stay...
Cole didn’t need phobe he deserve better
These are hilarious, even though charmed is my favourite show these are really a lot of fun to watch !! But I’d just like to point out that when Piper freezes Cole to stop him from dying it’s not a continuity issue like it usually is, when he didn’t get frozen before it was because she was only trying to freeze the humans so they could tell who the demons were. As he was a demon, he didn’t get frozen.
Does anyone else think that a series starring Bruce Campbell as a FBI agent who hunts witches would be frickin' awesome?
“i freaked out in the beginning too” no you didn’t you were excited and were happy to receive your powers. if anything prue and piper were the ones freaked out-
The child would be doubly powerful because first borns are the most powerful witches, and it'd be a second generation charmed witch as opposed to basic witches who are every single relative before the sisters were born. they basically level up the family tree that come after them.
J E Lyon, Oh yeah, that's a good point!.
I think Shannen really had a say in where they took the show and this is the result of her absence
Well yeah. As her as the lead. That much was obvious
“Now kiss” took me the fk out 🤣🤣🤣
5:06 “before they decided what outfit phoebe was gonna wear” LOL
theory : Leo and cole were having an affair and that’s why piper was so angry all the time 😂😂😂
5:11 Now that Prue is dead, will the picture get magically retouched to add the new sister in Prue's place? Or will she just get inserted like she is photobombing the original three?
"Leo, don't leave your shit lying arond the house... don't you f*kin' lie to me, I know the difference between all-whitelighter/ half-whitelighter shits" LOL
38:00 i was always under the impression that Phoebe chose evil because of the influence of her unborn child
She totally was. It wasn't her choice completely
Dodo F. Yeah. Phoebe was literally growing a demon inside her who was overtaking her.
She did. Cole was feeding her chocolates to enhance it and help the baby be evil.
Pamela Faddis no the chocolate made her fertile.
Pamela Faddis that’s why Piper had Wyatt
36:27 I laughed so hard at that cuz it's so right! You can't complain when you put yourself in the middle of a problem...
I feel like Piper's position regarding binding would make more sense if it was framed as her wanting the baby not to be defenseless against demons? But that would recquire her accepting the reality that magic shit isn't going to go away by ignoring it.
The potion phoebe used on Cole was to “break” the spell he was under
Yes I was gonna say that til I saw your comment, another correction is that of 14:10 it was Cole who put the cop there not the witches spell
Jonanice Phoebe made the spell, not Cole so how?
@@friendsfans123 I can’t remember the it perfectly but first they send the cop off with a spell & but not sure exactly where, so Cole says ‘I’ll go find him’ when he comes back they ask where he put him & Cole says something like ‘oh he’s somewhere he can’t tell no-one’ & looks down & Phoebe asks ‘in the basement?’ & he pulls this face so then (I think piper) says ‘oh I think he means deeper then that’ lol & then (I think Phoebe) yells at him that he can’t do that & needs to go bring him back
Jonanice I mean you aren’t wrong but Phoebe did send the cop to Timbuktu initially and that’s what the whole point was
"now kiss"
Carlos Ramos, Yeah that was hysterical!. 😄
Because in a show about magic what we want is... everything but magic. Goddamnit.
Season 4 is one of my favourite seasons of Charmed. While I do see the glaring writing mistakes when it comes to the characters, I really enjoyed Phoebe tiptoeing her way on either side of the conflict and how she struggles with her possible evil side. Plus, seeing Paige be the voice of reason worked well for the beginning of her character arc(with her being basically a stranger to Piper it allowed us to see how she isn't really accepted as a sister yet)
Love these videos! But I think your question at 28:22, is that in the S3 episode they make Piper freeze the innocents in the room I think, so technically Cole wouldn't freeze if he's evil at that point.
It's as if they didn't think this show through beforehand.
David SH, They didn't, I think also they change scriptwriters every so often, who are obviously not briefed on what's happened before. Not too clever!.
I really enjoyed having rose as paige and I really did enjoy season 4 it did have some problems but I still rewatch this season
14:40 "what else is new?" bahahahahaha it's exactly what I always think about piper. Is she ever not complaining 😂
I didn't know Cole and Leo were my series OTP.
I forgot how much I love your Charmed reviews and hate the show itself. Your charmed one voices are my favorite thing :D
Watching this video made me realize Cole is done badly. Of all the talk of saving innocent lives, Cole did more work to save himself and he still dies for his trouble. The all powerful witches who's job is to save people and they're refusing to do so each time Cole asks or a chance is present before them. Justice for Cole Turner!